Leading vs Exploring

Leading vs Exploring

Jonathan and I both happened to listen to the same Derek Sivers interview on leading vs. exploring and we just had to go there.

What’s the difference between the two and how can you build authority on either path? Join us as we cover:

Evaluating the continuum from leading (like say thought leadership) to exploring in your space.

How to know when to explore vs. when to lead.

When “busy” feels productive, but is instead keeping you in exactly the same position—neither exploring nor leading.

Deciding where on the exploring vs. leading continuum you want to be (for now).

Making choices to give you quick wins while still playing the long game.


“Exploring is about welcoming synchronicity, coincidence, luck and connection.”—JS

“You might have phases where you explore…maybe your business model isn’t working so you decide to pivot and you open yourself up to ‘what other things could I do?’”—RM

“You don’t have to have the map—you can make the map as you’re going. ”—JS

“We naturally gravitate to different points on the spectrum. Even if right now you’re in an explore phase, that doesn’t mean that’s where you’re going to stay.”—RM


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